Date: 2009-12-28, 11:46PM PST
Reply to: pers-ncrzp-1528598822@craigslist.org
I used to think we would be together forever.
I put so many things on hold for you,
all that did was delay my life.
All I gained was learning the hard way that I have to live my life for me, and no one else.
Oh, and that jesus was a zombie.
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Wednesday, December 30, 2009
Time is Precious.
Date: 2009-12-28, 7:17PM PST
Reply to: pers-rnzj4-1528412738@craigslist.org
You had better make some big changes in 2010. The time is NOW!
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Reply to: pers-rnzj4-1528412738@craigslist.org
You had better make some big changes in 2010. The time is NOW!
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Sunday, December 27, 2009
The Truth
The initial post is missing.
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re: The Truth - w4m
Date: 2009-12-23, 12:30AM EST
Reply to: pers-mbntp-1522127604@craigslist.org
Sounds like you need to look at yourself honey. If you had taken care of your man the way you should have, there would be no reason for him to have lied, now would there? Maybe you should have stayed a little closer to the home front and fulfilled what you committed to in the relationship. Kinda like the pot calling the kettle black. You are the type of female that gives a real woman a bad name. Grow up sweetie and quit putting the blame on everyone else
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re: the truth
Date: 2009-12-23, 12:40AM EST
Reply to: pers-6g39b-1522134298@craigslist.org
your 'truth' is a damn lie. what have i ever lied to you about?
you're an ignorant woman, and i'm becoming convinced that a lot of you are that way.
see, it wasn't that you couldn't have what you wanted, i just wouldn't do it in YOUR time frame so you said fuck it. you talk about remorse?
when we got 'serious'... you just couldn't let go of the internet.
but you tell me 'don't go to CL looking' - and i KNOW you have been here and probably a dozen other places. should have known cuz i said i didn't need extra and even that you were still pressing as long as i didn't seem to like 'it'.
just like they say, when a person tries to convince you that this or that is so bad, watch out that they aren't already doing it.
fuck it.
i wanted you. still do. but joke on me i guess. should have never trusted you.
ps.
you can keep the key - just changed the locks - and i will replace the chain that has somehow vanished from my secret place.
if all this means i'm going to be a bitter old man, SO BE IT.
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re: the truth (you nailed it)
Date: 2009-12-23, 1:30AM EST
Reply to: pers-drfkh-1522161213@craigslist.org
Sociopath's Irrational Optimism
We’ve discussed many of the sociopath’s traits, such as his missing empathy and compassion; his tendency to remorseless interpersonal exploitation; and proclivity to audacious acts of lying, deception and sundry other violating behaviors.
Now, I’m tempted to add to the mix what I call the sociopath’s tendency to “irrational optimism.”
By “irrational optimism,” I mean the sociopath’s irrationally optimistic belief, if not conviction, that he’ll either evade or, somehow, otherwise prevail over, the real, probable consequences of his actions.
Consider this brief, hypothetical interaction between a sociopath and his partner, who learns with certainty that he, the sociopath, has been cheating on her with three different women simultaneously:
Partner: How could you do that?
Sociopath: Do what?
Partner: Sleep with three different women behind my back. Are you f*cking demented?
Sociopath: First of all, that’s abusive. So stop right there and don’t abuse me. Second, I didn’t sleep with f*cking anybody. Not that I haven’t been tempted, given how lame our sex life is.
Partner: Why are you lying? I know who these women are, and I can prove you’ve been sleeping with them. Do you think I’m that f*cking stupid?
Sociopath: Let me ask you something. Why the hell would I sleep with three women and risk getting some f*cking STD? Think about it. You know me…or maybe you don’t? Does that make any sense?
The sociopath here is (or was) irrationally optimistic on two levels—first, that he’d be able to perpetrate this caper, undetected, indefinitely; and second that, once busted (as, now, he is) he’ll be able to squirm his way out of accountability.
We could address many aspects of this interaction, but I’d like to emphasize his last argument: “Let me ask you something. Why the hell would I sleep with three women and risk getting some f*cking STD? Think about it. You know me…or do you? Does that make any sense?”
This argument captures, I think, the sociopath’s “irrational optimism” beautifully. In offering the glibly insulting invitation to “think about it,” he makes a spectacle of his audacity and contempt: he really expects, and believes his partner should, accept his invitation [to think about it].
But even more than expecting her to “think about it,” which is outrageous enough, he expects her, in his irrational optimism, actually to be persuaded by his argument. In his irrational optimism, he is hopeful, if not confident, that she’ll choose to disbelieve the evidence she holds indisputably in her hands in favor of accepting his insulting logic.
How classically sociopathic is this?
More importantly, what contributes to the sociopath’s irrational optimism?
We might begin with his malignant sense of entitlement—that is, the sociopath’s belief that he is entitled to obtain the gratifications he wants. One of the most dangerous aspects of the attitude of entitlement is how it renders impotent—denudes of power—rule, limits and laws.
When you feel entitled to something, if it’s not accomodatingly forthcoming, you feel entitled to take it. You’ve laid, in your entitlement, a kind of psychic possession of what it is you want, so that now it becomes, in your mind, yours—specifically, your right to have.
And so if someone (or something) obstructs your seizing what now, in your mind, is your right to possess, then you are free to take it—to take, in fact, whatever is yours—by any means necessary.
Conferring this entitled status upon oneself encourages the irrationally optimistic view that, one way or another, accomodation looms…it must!
Closely related to this is the sociopath’s grandiosity: he believes he can and should succeed at his high-wire machinations because he’s that good, that clever and—it can’t be stressed enough—that entitled.
His grandiosity may take the form of thoughts like, “Sure, normal guys couldn’t pull this shit off, but I’m not your normal guy.”
And so, when you feel like you can do things that others can’t—especially things unsupported by “reality”—this is grandiosity. And grandiosity feeds, I believe, very directly, the sociopath’s tendency to irrational optimism.
Then there is the sociopath’s contempt, so inseparable from his grandiosity. As we discussed, the sociopath, in the example above, expects his insulting argument to succeed, either because he’s convinced he’s smart, clever and persuasive enough to be found so convincing, or else he’s convinced that his partner is dumb, naïve and/or desperate enough to believe him. (Or both!)
As a consequence, the sociopath’s contempt leaves him at constant risk of underestimating others, and overestimating himself. In his irrational optimism, fed by his contempt, he fails to appreciate how close he is always is—perhaps just one more reckless risk away—from being busted.
What else feeds the sociopath’s irrational optimism? How about his stupidity?
This may sound provocative, but let me explain. I suggest that blind faith supports a perspective of irrational optimism, and the sociopath operates with a kind of blind faith. That is, he operates in the blind faith that, somehow or other, he’ll escape accountability for his latest transgression.
Where does his blind faith come from? Two good sources, I’d suggest, are his grandiosity and arrogance—they blind him, I contend, to certain realities, effectively making him stupid on some level.
And his stupidity reinforces his irrational optimism.
Quite obviously, I’m not talking I.Q. stupidity, but rather judgement-level stupidity. The sociopath’s personality pathology mars his capacity to make wise, intelligent judgements in many circumstances.
(My use of “he” in this article is a convenience, not to suggest that females aren’t capable of the behaviors and attitudes discussed. This article is copyrighted © 2009 by Steve Becker, LCSW).
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HOW TO DEAL WITH A SOCIOPATH
There is no known cure or therapy for sociopathy. In fact, some evidence suggests that therapy makes them worse because they use it to learn more about human vulnerabilities they can then exploit. They learn how to manipulate better and they learn better excuses that others will believe.
Given all that, there is only one solution for dealing with a sociopath: Get him or her completely out of your life for good. This seems radical, and of course, you want to be fairly sure your diagnosis is correct, but you need to protect yourself from the drain on your time, attention, money, and good attitude. Healing or helping a sociopath is a pointless waste of your life. That is not your mission. It's not your responsibility. You have your own goals and your own life, and those are your responsibility.
In Hare's book, he says before you diagnose someone as a sociopath, he recommends you get a full clinical diagnostic, including an extensive interview with the sociopath by a qualified psychotherapist, plus interviews with the sociopath's bosses, co-workers, friends, and family. Yeah, right. Good luck on that one. I agree, that would be ideal, but if you can get a sociopath to submit to an interview, I would be astonished. So you'll have to do the best you can with the information you can get.
I don't recommend you tell anyone you have diagnosed him as a sociopath. In fact, I strongly urge you not to. I don't even know if it's a good idea to tell anyone about your conclusion. Just get the sociopath out of your life with as little fanfare as you can. The only exception I would make to this rule is if the sociopath is making someone else's life a living hell, it seems wrong to leave her to the wolves while you slink off. I don't recommend you try to convince your friend she is dealing with a sociopath. I recommend that you simply say you got a lot of insight from this or that book or whatever, and let your friend draw her own conclusions. It is not your mission to save your friend, either. Tell her what you know and if she ignores your warning, that's her problem, not yours. Because you said something, she may figure it out eventually.
If this all sounds cold or heartless, maybe you're not dealing with a sociopath, or maybe she or he hasn't driven you to the point of madness (yet). But remember what the solution is; you may someday need it.
And besides, the point of all this dismal information is so you no longer need to think about such negative things and so you can turn your attention to positive, life-affirming, uplifting goals of your own.
You may also want to check out a support group for people who are in a relationship with a sociopath:
LoveFraud.com
Sociopathic Style
Safe Relationships
If you have a sociopath in your life, you should take it seriously. Learn what you need to learn, and if you are pretty sure you have correctly identified one, do what needs to be done to protect yourself and your non-sociopathic loved ones. Then get back to your own life. Accomplish your goals. Nurture your relationships. Learn and grow and enjoy yourself.
* Location: you nailed it
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Re: The Truth
Date: 2009-12-23, 12:24PM EST
Reply to: pers-sxttj-1522559688@craigslist.org
Thanks for posting this. I know a sociopath (who just celebrated his birthday yesterday, so Happy Birthday Jackass) and he is described here perfectly. In fact, we had this exact argument. The reminder that there is nothing that will change this type of person is very helpful, and I appreciate it.
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Re: The Truth
Date: 2009-12-23, 2:35PM EST
Reply to: pers-rk753-1522763817@craigslist.org
It's really sad to see people going though this but please know you're not alone.
I just got out of something as well, but mine was more like a verbally abusive "child" with an incurable case of N.P.D.
A total mess. Glad I saw the light and ran ...
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Re: The Truth (same boat)
Date: 2009-12-23, 5:52PM EST
Reply to: pers-mcysu-1523020057@craigslist.org
*I just got out of something as well, but mine was more like a verbally abusive "child" with an incurable case of N.P.D.
A total mess. Glad I saw the light and ran ...*
Amen to that! It astounds me how many of us have been through incredibly similar experiences. Sometimes I wonder if my ex-man is out there making the rounds!
Keep running towards that light...
* Location: same boat
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YOUR TRUTH
Date: 2009-12-23, 8:28PM EST
Reply to: pers-ruw43-1523172703@craigslist.org
"I just got out of something as well, but mine was more like a verbally abusive "child" with an incurable case of N.P.D.
A total mess. Glad I saw the light and ran ... "
I presume it is an oxymoron to use the word "incurable" prefacing NarsicistiC Personality Disorder.
IN fact, some psychologists find it rather amusing -the idea of Death being the only cure.
I will never really be cured, honey. Though your constant critism is a good blow to the AlterEGO, and perhaps the boost i needed to get through 10 rounds with the dreamy dumbass inside of me.
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re: YOUR TRUTH - w4m (Where I should Be)
Date: 2009-12-24, 2:51PM EST
Reply to: pers-nc9e9-1523833885@craigslist.org
Well, if I had been in therapy all of my life, and blamed other people for all of my problems all of my life, maybe I could understand. The doctor only knows how to help based on what you tell her (In your case I know it's "Her"). Very deceptive and manipulative, to say the least. If I were you, and I'm glad I'm not, I wouldn't like what I saw in the mirror. If I were you honey, the solution would be to remove all the mirrors in the world. But even then, you will still have to live with you, and you know who you really are. You are the one with the gift that keeps on giving. There are papers to prove that. Itch, itch
* Location: Where I should Be
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re: YOUR TRUTH (Where You Should Be)
Date: 2009-12-24, 3:13PM EST
Reply to: pers-cvaub-1523853278@craigslist.org
Yeah, you definitely have the wrong person.
* Location: Where You Should Be
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re,re: where i should be (Relaxed)
Date: 2009-12-25, 2:33AM EST
Reply to: pers-vnumh-1524173583@craigslist.org
AH!! Struck a nerve did we? The truth will always piss somebody off quicker than anything. Only you and one other person knows where you received the "gift" honey. I personally have no idea where you got the "gift". I only know, and now everyone knows, that you have it. You have no idea who I am, which leads me to believe that you may not know who gave you the "gift". I only hope that during this season of giving, that you keep the "gift" for yourself and not give it to any other people. Do you think sweety that maybe you could start being a mature adult and keep your pants on for a change? Though you seem to be generous with yourself, try not to be generous with the "gift". You could harm a lot of people. There are no "amends" you could make for that. But then, it has never bothered you in the past, now has it cutie? Just blame "you" on someone else. The "easier, softer way (for you). I would say MERRY CHRISTMAS to you too, but you don't celebrate CHRISTMAS, (or do you?). You are the type that just "gives" all year
long. Good night Sweetie.
* Location: Relaxed
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re: relaxed
Date: 2009-12-25, 11:49AM EST
Reply to: pers-wkpfu-1524299461@craigslist.org
you're right. I dont know you and you dont know me! get over your self righteous bullsh#T, and stop dragging my heart and name through the mud. I dont know who you think I am,but you have no idea who I am. I am not your MC, and I am just messing around.
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re,re: RELAXED (More Relaxed)
Date: 2009-12-25, 2:48PM EST
Reply to: pers-pa4zp-1524399744@craigslist.org
Self rightous? There's that pot and kettle again Sweetie. You may or may not be who I think you are or even who you think you are. Sometimes I don't even know who I am. You may or may not be who I'm posting to. You may just be the conduit someone is using, based on the content of your post, to make someone else think it's them. And in some cases, it is them. It may or may not have anything to do with you. If the shoe fits, wear it. If it doesn't, put it back in the closet where it has been for the last 15 years. Don't take things so personal unless they are honey. We haven't even defined the "gift" yet, in words. Yet, based on information from your post, I know what the "gift" is that you have. I didn't make that up. You are not a victim, you're a volunteer. And yet, you wanted to blame your "gift" on me, like you didn't have anything to do with it. You didn't just wake up with it. Santa did not just leave it under the tree honey. You had a part in receiving the "gift". Why does it have to be, that someone else has to always take the blame. I do know the answer to that. I already know who I am, but I can't let "them" know who I am. "It's worked for years and years and I can't stop". One of the most terrible addictions on earth. Kills more people than anything else. Most of the time it's not even the person with the addiction that dies, in one way or another. There's the real victim!!!
Have a nice Christmas day Sweetie ( I forgot, you don't believe in Christmas. Or do you?)
* Location: More Relaxed
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re:more relaxed
Date: 2009-12-26, 2:26AM EST
Reply to: pers-rrr9c-1524734869@craigslist.org
I dont know who you are or why i am still writing you, but I like that you are willing to put it on the line. If we were together at one time, then you know that my "gift" was not intentional, and in fact i have only become aware of it very recently. I do have other gifts though, that of empathy and caring. I know that I have given my body to too many, but I have given my heart to you along with very few. I was willing to listen and learn to be a better man until I found out that if I took those steps for you, I would be nothing but a pathetic loser in your eyes forever. when we closed our last chapter together, I only wanted to remain friends, and perhaps you could bare witness to the positive changes I have made for Myself. I will always love you. I do not put much heart into christmas, but that is not because I do not celebrate it. I love the meaning behind it, and it is truly a time to celebrate the love between what we are on the outside compared to devine beings we all really are. The meaning of christmas has been jaded and twisted by men in history, thus our relationship with our devine selves has followed suit. But that is just one of many reasons why we are not whole.
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re: The Truth - w4m
Date: 2009-12-23, 12:30AM EST
Reply to: pers-mbntp-1522127604@craigslist.org
Sounds like you need to look at yourself honey. If you had taken care of your man the way you should have, there would be no reason for him to have lied, now would there? Maybe you should have stayed a little closer to the home front and fulfilled what you committed to in the relationship. Kinda like the pot calling the kettle black. You are the type of female that gives a real woman a bad name. Grow up sweetie and quit putting the blame on everyone else
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re: the truth
Date: 2009-12-23, 12:40AM EST
Reply to: pers-6g39b-1522134298@craigslist.org
your 'truth' is a damn lie. what have i ever lied to you about?
you're an ignorant woman, and i'm becoming convinced that a lot of you are that way.
see, it wasn't that you couldn't have what you wanted, i just wouldn't do it in YOUR time frame so you said fuck it. you talk about remorse?
when we got 'serious'... you just couldn't let go of the internet.
but you tell me 'don't go to CL looking' - and i KNOW you have been here and probably a dozen other places. should have known cuz i said i didn't need extra and even that you were still pressing as long as i didn't seem to like 'it'.
just like they say, when a person tries to convince you that this or that is so bad, watch out that they aren't already doing it.
fuck it.
i wanted you. still do. but joke on me i guess. should have never trusted you.
ps.
you can keep the key - just changed the locks - and i will replace the chain that has somehow vanished from my secret place.
if all this means i'm going to be a bitter old man, SO BE IT.
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re: the truth (you nailed it)
Date: 2009-12-23, 1:30AM EST
Reply to: pers-drfkh-1522161213@craigslist.org
Sociopath's Irrational Optimism
We’ve discussed many of the sociopath’s traits, such as his missing empathy and compassion; his tendency to remorseless interpersonal exploitation; and proclivity to audacious acts of lying, deception and sundry other violating behaviors.
Now, I’m tempted to add to the mix what I call the sociopath’s tendency to “irrational optimism.”
By “irrational optimism,” I mean the sociopath’s irrationally optimistic belief, if not conviction, that he’ll either evade or, somehow, otherwise prevail over, the real, probable consequences of his actions.
Consider this brief, hypothetical interaction between a sociopath and his partner, who learns with certainty that he, the sociopath, has been cheating on her with three different women simultaneously:
Partner: How could you do that?
Sociopath: Do what?
Partner: Sleep with three different women behind my back. Are you f*cking demented?
Sociopath: First of all, that’s abusive. So stop right there and don’t abuse me. Second, I didn’t sleep with f*cking anybody. Not that I haven’t been tempted, given how lame our sex life is.
Partner: Why are you lying? I know who these women are, and I can prove you’ve been sleeping with them. Do you think I’m that f*cking stupid?
Sociopath: Let me ask you something. Why the hell would I sleep with three women and risk getting some f*cking STD? Think about it. You know me…or maybe you don’t? Does that make any sense?
The sociopath here is (or was) irrationally optimistic on two levels—first, that he’d be able to perpetrate this caper, undetected, indefinitely; and second that, once busted (as, now, he is) he’ll be able to squirm his way out of accountability.
We could address many aspects of this interaction, but I’d like to emphasize his last argument: “Let me ask you something. Why the hell would I sleep with three women and risk getting some f*cking STD? Think about it. You know me…or do you? Does that make any sense?”
This argument captures, I think, the sociopath’s “irrational optimism” beautifully. In offering the glibly insulting invitation to “think about it,” he makes a spectacle of his audacity and contempt: he really expects, and believes his partner should, accept his invitation [to think about it].
But even more than expecting her to “think about it,” which is outrageous enough, he expects her, in his irrational optimism, actually to be persuaded by his argument. In his irrational optimism, he is hopeful, if not confident, that she’ll choose to disbelieve the evidence she holds indisputably in her hands in favor of accepting his insulting logic.
How classically sociopathic is this?
More importantly, what contributes to the sociopath’s irrational optimism?
We might begin with his malignant sense of entitlement—that is, the sociopath’s belief that he is entitled to obtain the gratifications he wants. One of the most dangerous aspects of the attitude of entitlement is how it renders impotent—denudes of power—rule, limits and laws.
When you feel entitled to something, if it’s not accomodatingly forthcoming, you feel entitled to take it. You’ve laid, in your entitlement, a kind of psychic possession of what it is you want, so that now it becomes, in your mind, yours—specifically, your right to have.
And so if someone (or something) obstructs your seizing what now, in your mind, is your right to possess, then you are free to take it—to take, in fact, whatever is yours—by any means necessary.
Conferring this entitled status upon oneself encourages the irrationally optimistic view that, one way or another, accomodation looms…it must!
Closely related to this is the sociopath’s grandiosity: he believes he can and should succeed at his high-wire machinations because he’s that good, that clever and—it can’t be stressed enough—that entitled.
His grandiosity may take the form of thoughts like, “Sure, normal guys couldn’t pull this shit off, but I’m not your normal guy.”
And so, when you feel like you can do things that others can’t—especially things unsupported by “reality”—this is grandiosity. And grandiosity feeds, I believe, very directly, the sociopath’s tendency to irrational optimism.
Then there is the sociopath’s contempt, so inseparable from his grandiosity. As we discussed, the sociopath, in the example above, expects his insulting argument to succeed, either because he’s convinced he’s smart, clever and persuasive enough to be found so convincing, or else he’s convinced that his partner is dumb, naïve and/or desperate enough to believe him. (Or both!)
As a consequence, the sociopath’s contempt leaves him at constant risk of underestimating others, and overestimating himself. In his irrational optimism, fed by his contempt, he fails to appreciate how close he is always is—perhaps just one more reckless risk away—from being busted.
What else feeds the sociopath’s irrational optimism? How about his stupidity?
This may sound provocative, but let me explain. I suggest that blind faith supports a perspective of irrational optimism, and the sociopath operates with a kind of blind faith. That is, he operates in the blind faith that, somehow or other, he’ll escape accountability for his latest transgression.
Where does his blind faith come from? Two good sources, I’d suggest, are his grandiosity and arrogance—they blind him, I contend, to certain realities, effectively making him stupid on some level.
And his stupidity reinforces his irrational optimism.
Quite obviously, I’m not talking I.Q. stupidity, but rather judgement-level stupidity. The sociopath’s personality pathology mars his capacity to make wise, intelligent judgements in many circumstances.
(My use of “he” in this article is a convenience, not to suggest that females aren’t capable of the behaviors and attitudes discussed. This article is copyrighted © 2009 by Steve Becker, LCSW).
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HOW TO DEAL WITH A SOCIOPATH
There is no known cure or therapy for sociopathy. In fact, some evidence suggests that therapy makes them worse because they use it to learn more about human vulnerabilities they can then exploit. They learn how to manipulate better and they learn better excuses that others will believe.
Given all that, there is only one solution for dealing with a sociopath: Get him or her completely out of your life for good. This seems radical, and of course, you want to be fairly sure your diagnosis is correct, but you need to protect yourself from the drain on your time, attention, money, and good attitude. Healing or helping a sociopath is a pointless waste of your life. That is not your mission. It's not your responsibility. You have your own goals and your own life, and those are your responsibility.
In Hare's book, he says before you diagnose someone as a sociopath, he recommends you get a full clinical diagnostic, including an extensive interview with the sociopath by a qualified psychotherapist, plus interviews with the sociopath's bosses, co-workers, friends, and family. Yeah, right. Good luck on that one. I agree, that would be ideal, but if you can get a sociopath to submit to an interview, I would be astonished. So you'll have to do the best you can with the information you can get.
I don't recommend you tell anyone you have diagnosed him as a sociopath. In fact, I strongly urge you not to. I don't even know if it's a good idea to tell anyone about your conclusion. Just get the sociopath out of your life with as little fanfare as you can. The only exception I would make to this rule is if the sociopath is making someone else's life a living hell, it seems wrong to leave her to the wolves while you slink off. I don't recommend you try to convince your friend she is dealing with a sociopath. I recommend that you simply say you got a lot of insight from this or that book or whatever, and let your friend draw her own conclusions. It is not your mission to save your friend, either. Tell her what you know and if she ignores your warning, that's her problem, not yours. Because you said something, she may figure it out eventually.
If this all sounds cold or heartless, maybe you're not dealing with a sociopath, or maybe she or he hasn't driven you to the point of madness (yet). But remember what the solution is; you may someday need it.
And besides, the point of all this dismal information is so you no longer need to think about such negative things and so you can turn your attention to positive, life-affirming, uplifting goals of your own.
You may also want to check out a support group for people who are in a relationship with a sociopath:
LoveFraud.com
Sociopathic Style
Safe Relationships
If you have a sociopath in your life, you should take it seriously. Learn what you need to learn, and if you are pretty sure you have correctly identified one, do what needs to be done to protect yourself and your non-sociopathic loved ones. Then get back to your own life. Accomplish your goals. Nurture your relationships. Learn and grow and enjoy yourself.
* Location: you nailed it
Found at: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/mis/1522161213.html
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Re: The Truth
Date: 2009-12-23, 12:24PM EST
Reply to: pers-sxttj-1522559688@craigslist.org
Thanks for posting this. I know a sociopath (who just celebrated his birthday yesterday, so Happy Birthday Jackass) and he is described here perfectly. In fact, we had this exact argument. The reminder that there is nothing that will change this type of person is very helpful, and I appreciate it.
Found at: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/mis/1522559688.html
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Re: The Truth
Date: 2009-12-23, 2:35PM EST
Reply to: pers-rk753-1522763817@craigslist.org
It's really sad to see people going though this but please know you're not alone.
I just got out of something as well, but mine was more like a verbally abusive "child" with an incurable case of N.P.D.
A total mess. Glad I saw the light and ran ...
Found at: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/mis/1522763817.html
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Re: The Truth (same boat)
Date: 2009-12-23, 5:52PM EST
Reply to: pers-mcysu-1523020057@craigslist.org
*I just got out of something as well, but mine was more like a verbally abusive "child" with an incurable case of N.P.D.
A total mess. Glad I saw the light and ran ...*
Amen to that! It astounds me how many of us have been through incredibly similar experiences. Sometimes I wonder if my ex-man is out there making the rounds!
Keep running towards that light...
* Location: same boat
Found at: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/mis/1523020057.html
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YOUR TRUTH
Date: 2009-12-23, 8:28PM EST
Reply to: pers-ruw43-1523172703@craigslist.org
"I just got out of something as well, but mine was more like a verbally abusive "child" with an incurable case of N.P.D.
A total mess. Glad I saw the light and ran ... "
I presume it is an oxymoron to use the word "incurable" prefacing NarsicistiC Personality Disorder.
IN fact, some psychologists find it rather amusing -the idea of Death being the only cure.
I will never really be cured, honey. Though your constant critism is a good blow to the AlterEGO, and perhaps the boost i needed to get through 10 rounds with the dreamy dumbass inside of me.
Found at: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/mis/1523172703.html
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re: YOUR TRUTH - w4m (Where I should Be)
Date: 2009-12-24, 2:51PM EST
Reply to: pers-nc9e9-1523833885@craigslist.org
Well, if I had been in therapy all of my life, and blamed other people for all of my problems all of my life, maybe I could understand. The doctor only knows how to help based on what you tell her (In your case I know it's "Her"). Very deceptive and manipulative, to say the least. If I were you, and I'm glad I'm not, I wouldn't like what I saw in the mirror. If I were you honey, the solution would be to remove all the mirrors in the world. But even then, you will still have to live with you, and you know who you really are. You are the one with the gift that keeps on giving. There are papers to prove that. Itch, itch
* Location: Where I should Be
Found at: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/mis/1523833885.html
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re: YOUR TRUTH (Where You Should Be)
Date: 2009-12-24, 3:13PM EST
Reply to: pers-cvaub-1523853278@craigslist.org
Yeah, you definitely have the wrong person.
* Location: Where You Should Be
Found at: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/mis/1523853278.html
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re,re: where i should be (Relaxed)
Date: 2009-12-25, 2:33AM EST
Reply to: pers-vnumh-1524173583@craigslist.org
AH!! Struck a nerve did we? The truth will always piss somebody off quicker than anything. Only you and one other person knows where you received the "gift" honey. I personally have no idea where you got the "gift". I only know, and now everyone knows, that you have it. You have no idea who I am, which leads me to believe that you may not know who gave you the "gift". I only hope that during this season of giving, that you keep the "gift" for yourself and not give it to any other people. Do you think sweety that maybe you could start being a mature adult and keep your pants on for a change? Though you seem to be generous with yourself, try not to be generous with the "gift". You could harm a lot of people. There are no "amends" you could make for that. But then, it has never bothered you in the past, now has it cutie? Just blame "you" on someone else. The "easier, softer way (for you). I would say MERRY CHRISTMAS to you too, but you don't celebrate CHRISTMAS, (or do you?). You are the type that just "gives" all year
long. Good night Sweetie.
* Location: Relaxed
Found at: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/mis/1524173583.html
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re: relaxed
Date: 2009-12-25, 11:49AM EST
Reply to: pers-wkpfu-1524299461@craigslist.org
you're right. I dont know you and you dont know me! get over your self righteous bullsh#T, and stop dragging my heart and name through the mud. I dont know who you think I am,but you have no idea who I am. I am not your MC, and I am just messing around.
Found at: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/mis/1524299461.html
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re,re: RELAXED (More Relaxed)
Date: 2009-12-25, 2:48PM EST
Reply to: pers-pa4zp-1524399744@craigslist.org
Self rightous? There's that pot and kettle again Sweetie. You may or may not be who I think you are or even who you think you are. Sometimes I don't even know who I am. You may or may not be who I'm posting to. You may just be the conduit someone is using, based on the content of your post, to make someone else think it's them. And in some cases, it is them. It may or may not have anything to do with you. If the shoe fits, wear it. If it doesn't, put it back in the closet where it has been for the last 15 years. Don't take things so personal unless they are honey. We haven't even defined the "gift" yet, in words. Yet, based on information from your post, I know what the "gift" is that you have. I didn't make that up. You are not a victim, you're a volunteer. And yet, you wanted to blame your "gift" on me, like you didn't have anything to do with it. You didn't just wake up with it. Santa did not just leave it under the tree honey. You had a part in receiving the "gift". Why does it have to be, that someone else has to always take the blame. I do know the answer to that. I already know who I am, but I can't let "them" know who I am. "It's worked for years and years and I can't stop". One of the most terrible addictions on earth. Kills more people than anything else. Most of the time it's not even the person with the addiction that dies, in one way or another. There's the real victim!!!
Have a nice Christmas day Sweetie ( I forgot, you don't believe in Christmas. Or do you?)
* Location: More Relaxed
Found at: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/mis/1524399744.html
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re:more relaxed
Date: 2009-12-26, 2:26AM EST
Reply to: pers-rrr9c-1524734869@craigslist.org
I dont know who you are or why i am still writing you, but I like that you are willing to put it on the line. If we were together at one time, then you know that my "gift" was not intentional, and in fact i have only become aware of it very recently. I do have other gifts though, that of empathy and caring. I know that I have given my body to too many, but I have given my heart to you along with very few. I was willing to listen and learn to be a better man until I found out that if I took those steps for you, I would be nothing but a pathetic loser in your eyes forever. when we closed our last chapter together, I only wanted to remain friends, and perhaps you could bare witness to the positive changes I have made for Myself. I will always love you. I do not put much heart into christmas, but that is not because I do not celebrate it. I love the meaning behind it, and it is truly a time to celebrate the love between what we are on the outside compared to devine beings we all really are. The meaning of christmas has been jaded and twisted by men in history, thus our relationship with our devine selves has followed suit. But that is just one of many reasons why we are not whole.
Found at: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/mis/1524734869.html
Someone you saw - m4w
Date: 2009-12-27, 3:09AM PST
Reply to: pers-ehubr-1525898056@craigslist.org
This is for missed connections! Someone you saw, that you thought was cute, that you might like to meet, or just to say you were cute. Not to write a book about how you had a love and lost a love. Really!!
If you need to profess your love to someone that you know, you should have their phone number or email, do it there. Stop babbling here.
Found at: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/mis/1525898056.html
Reply to: pers-ehubr-1525898056@craigslist.org
This is for missed connections! Someone you saw, that you thought was cute, that you might like to meet, or just to say you were cute. Not to write a book about how you had a love and lost a love. Really!!
If you need to profess your love to someone that you know, you should have their phone number or email, do it there. Stop babbling here.
Found at: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/mis/1525898056.html
All I wanted for Christmas...is something that is NOT good for me... - w4m (away...)
Date: 2009-12-25, 9:54PM PST
Reply to: pers-matt5-1524704404@craigslist.org
God, how I miss you...and there is absolutely no reason for me to miss you....I should have been the one to end things, I had more than abundant reason.... I don't want to hurt anymore, I don't want to think of you, or remember our time together.. I want to be able to move on like you did, just like that..a snap of the fingers and not a second glance your way, barely a week after our break... How could you have this much impact on my life? You were my shortest relationship, just under two years! and by far my worst....but also the most passionate.... nothing makes the pain stop... nothing makes me feel better... nothing.. you keep killing me over and over again, and you don't even know it... you just moved onto her, you're happy or so I hear...and I truly, truly want to be happy for you..because I'm a good person.. remember?.. you said that was what attracted you to me in the first place, I was so healthy, and positive, goodhearted and kind.. children and animals loved me, gravitated towards me.. you loved that I was so genuine....and knew what I wanted in life and went for it...... and now..I'm so lost... I feel like I'm floating around in an ocean...no idea which way land is... and you should not be who is on my mind....You killed all of the things in me that attracted you to me in the first place.... How can this still hurt this much? Its been months!!! I'm stronger than this, I know I am the only persoon who can allow anyone to hurt me... and I don't want to let you hurt me anymore...but I can't get you out of my head. You lied, repeatedly... and cheated..god knows how many times or to what degree, did it go beyond the make out sessions with your "email" friend? How many other women were there? I'll never know, because I'll never believe a word you say to me again....and I know there is NO way, no way in hell that you and I can be together again... no way it would ever work..even if you realized that I was "the one"... and you blew it.. which I know you don't believe.. or feel... how can I be so stupid to fall in love with someone who was not in love with me? How come I can't just hate you??? how come I still love you? how come I still want good things for you... what is wrong with me??? I've been through MUCH worse than this.. MUCH worse... how the F do you have this affect on me??? (yeah.. CL folks...I know.. you say it all the time... only YOU can allow someone to hurt you.... I get it!! but how come I can't shut it off??) This has been handsdown the worst holiday season of my life!!!! If I have to do another one like it, I'm not going to live through it!!! Why wasn't I the one for you......and How could YOU Possibly be the one for me? You're temper, your mood swings, your brooding, your hot/cold syndrome.... your disregard and disrespect of me in public, in front of your friends and family.... how come I can't realize that I deserve better? What did i allow you to do to me??? How did I allow you to determine how I feel about myself?? I've made tremendous life changes in my life... changes i'm proud of!!! how did I let one little man change all of that???? I don't want to feel... anything..... but hate the numbness........ and myself for not respecting myself enough to have the strength to leave you... sooner... when I knew it wasn't going to work...
* Location: away...
Found at: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/mis/1524704404.html
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Christmas wish - m4w (i hope you get yours i got mine)
Date: 2009-12-25, 10:39PM PST
Reply to: pers-qzwna-1524721452@craigslist.org
merry Christmas
* Location: i hope you get yours i got mine
Found at: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/mis/1524721452.html
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xmas wish (i know ur lyin, cuz ur talkin)
Date: 2009-12-25, 11:59PM PST
Reply to: pers-dhvv8-1524742416@craigslist.org
I really doubt you got your wish. Now how can I ever believe you?
I can't.
* Location: i know ur lyin, cuz ur talkin
Found at: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/mis/1524742416.html
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wish - m4w
Date: 2009-12-26, 12:28AM PST
Reply to: pers-hx2kb-1524749029@craigslist.org
i did get my wish and you would be happy to know of my wish that came true.
as for you every time we met we would both have butterflies.
Found at: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/mis/1524749029.html
Reply to: pers-matt5-1524704404@craigslist.org
God, how I miss you...and there is absolutely no reason for me to miss you....I should have been the one to end things, I had more than abundant reason.... I don't want to hurt anymore, I don't want to think of you, or remember our time together.. I want to be able to move on like you did, just like that..a snap of the fingers and not a second glance your way, barely a week after our break... How could you have this much impact on my life? You were my shortest relationship, just under two years! and by far my worst....but also the most passionate.... nothing makes the pain stop... nothing makes me feel better... nothing.. you keep killing me over and over again, and you don't even know it... you just moved onto her, you're happy or so I hear...and I truly, truly want to be happy for you..because I'm a good person.. remember?.. you said that was what attracted you to me in the first place, I was so healthy, and positive, goodhearted and kind.. children and animals loved me, gravitated towards me.. you loved that I was so genuine....and knew what I wanted in life and went for it...... and now..I'm so lost... I feel like I'm floating around in an ocean...no idea which way land is... and you should not be who is on my mind....You killed all of the things in me that attracted you to me in the first place.... How can this still hurt this much? Its been months!!! I'm stronger than this, I know I am the only persoon who can allow anyone to hurt me... and I don't want to let you hurt me anymore...but I can't get you out of my head. You lied, repeatedly... and cheated..god knows how many times or to what degree, did it go beyond the make out sessions with your "email" friend? How many other women were there? I'll never know, because I'll never believe a word you say to me again....and I know there is NO way, no way in hell that you and I can be together again... no way it would ever work..even if you realized that I was "the one"... and you blew it.. which I know you don't believe.. or feel... how can I be so stupid to fall in love with someone who was not in love with me? How come I can't just hate you??? how come I still love you? how come I still want good things for you... what is wrong with me??? I've been through MUCH worse than this.. MUCH worse... how the F do you have this affect on me??? (yeah.. CL folks...I know.. you say it all the time... only YOU can allow someone to hurt you.... I get it!! but how come I can't shut it off??) This has been handsdown the worst holiday season of my life!!!! If I have to do another one like it, I'm not going to live through it!!! Why wasn't I the one for you......and How could YOU Possibly be the one for me? You're temper, your mood swings, your brooding, your hot/cold syndrome.... your disregard and disrespect of me in public, in front of your friends and family.... how come I can't realize that I deserve better? What did i allow you to do to me??? How did I allow you to determine how I feel about myself?? I've made tremendous life changes in my life... changes i'm proud of!!! how did I let one little man change all of that???? I don't want to feel... anything..... but hate the numbness........ and myself for not respecting myself enough to have the strength to leave you... sooner... when I knew it wasn't going to work...
* Location: away...
Found at: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/mis/1524704404.html
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Christmas wish - m4w (i hope you get yours i got mine)
Date: 2009-12-25, 10:39PM PST
Reply to: pers-qzwna-1524721452@craigslist.org
merry Christmas
* Location: i hope you get yours i got mine
Found at: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/mis/1524721452.html
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xmas wish (i know ur lyin, cuz ur talkin)
Date: 2009-12-25, 11:59PM PST
Reply to: pers-dhvv8-1524742416@craigslist.org
I really doubt you got your wish. Now how can I ever believe you?
I can't.
* Location: i know ur lyin, cuz ur talkin
Found at: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/mis/1524742416.html
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wish - m4w
Date: 2009-12-26, 12:28AM PST
Reply to: pers-hx2kb-1524749029@craigslist.org
i did get my wish and you would be happy to know of my wish that came true.
as for you every time we met we would both have butterflies.
Found at: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/mis/1524749029.html
Sunday, December 20, 2009
Quit Fooling Yourself
Date: 2009-12-20, 1:12PM PST
Reply to: pers-wannr-1518717444@craigslist.org
If that person you love and miss so much, also loved you and wanted to be with you, they would. Nothing would keep them from you. And they sure as hell wouldn't be off, putting all their effort into being with another, if you were who they loved. It's sad, but true. They had their chance, now get over them. They are obviously over you.
* Location: Sacramento
Found at: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/mis/1518717444.html
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re:Quit Fooling Yourself -
Date: 2009-12-20, 1:30PM PST
Reply to: pers-zj4qc-1518734860@craigslist.org
Thank you for posting this. I just realized I have been a fool for thinking the girl I have loved for all these years shares my feelings.
I have known her since the mid 90's, and if it hasn't happened by now, it never will. Only a fool breaks his own heart.
Found at: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/mis/1518734860.html
Reply to: pers-wannr-1518717444@craigslist.org
If that person you love and miss so much, also loved you and wanted to be with you, they would. Nothing would keep them from you. And they sure as hell wouldn't be off, putting all their effort into being with another, if you were who they loved. It's sad, but true. They had their chance, now get over them. They are obviously over you.
* Location: Sacramento
Found at: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/mis/1518717444.html
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re:Quit Fooling Yourself -
Date: 2009-12-20, 1:30PM PST
Reply to: pers-zj4qc-1518734860@craigslist.org
Thank you for posting this. I just realized I have been a fool for thinking the girl I have loved for all these years shares my feelings.
I have known her since the mid 90's, and if it hasn't happened by now, it never will. Only a fool breaks his own heart.
Found at: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/mis/1518734860.html
Friday, December 18, 2009
To the guy I've slept with too many times - w4m
Date: 2009-12-18, 2:07AM EST
Reply to: pers-zqzzz-1515404887@craigslist.org
Why OH WHY do I do this to myself. I am attached and REALLY don't need your attention. But we had our first encounters and you were forever connected with my mind, heart and my vagina. We stopped talking for a long time, I think it was because of you, you insist that I was the one who ended it. Whatever. But I saw you this summer after over a year of feeling a bit insecure and somewhat distraught over the fact that you just STOPPED talking to me. After all did I say something wrong, was I not cute enough, etc... I am a girl and thats what this does to us (me). Anyways, I see you and I get up the nerve to talk to you at your work. I ask you a stupid question just so you would know that the girl you dropped still existed. Anyway I go home and post a Missed Connection, I used words that were specific to our original encounter and there after a day or 2 was your email. I liked it... you, who dropped me, were paying me some attention.
There was the initial (from me) Uhm you just stopped talking to me? and (from you) You ended it, you told me you didn't want to talk to me anymore.
This is true, I did say I wanted to stop talking BUT we still communicated after that and then at some point you stopped responding to texts.
So, after clarifying that we stopped talking because of ME (thanks- silly me I was depressed on and off for a year because I just stopped talking to YOU)
So we picked right back up with the sexual dialogue that I knew you liked. After all you looked on MC and you responded to me you must want me.
So I went with it. I do enjoyed it too, I really am a fan of sex!
Months of wanting and talking and we did it! Yay!! Right?! NOPE! 10 days no communication. THANKS AGAIN! I emailed you a holiday greeting somewhere in there and eventually you emailed back with something about the Internet being down. Hm. ok. Well within a few days you'd asked about having another meet up. Really? After we had sex and didnt talk to me for 10 days? Well that wasn't what I had been hoping for and I told you so. I also told you I wasn't interested in sleeping with someone who didn't really care for me. (You might be thinking what was I expecting right? Well in the very beginning I wanted sex but almost immediately after that I wanted an emotional connection. Maybe it's just because I am a female and thats how some of us work.) Anyhow, you assured me you did care and that it wasn't just about sex and that if I gave you another chance that you'd prove it to me, you'd show me how you felt.
Well, we did it again! YAYYY! Right!? Well not to sound psycho but 2 days later and there has been total silence. I do agree that I got to spend more time with you this encounter and that it was nice talking to you and laying with you BUT this or that rather isn't what I want. I want a relationship with you. I want to know that if I sleep with you today that in some form or fashion today or at the latest tomorrow I will have contact from you. If that isn't possible neither are our encounters. I am pissed that I slept with you again. I am pissed that I didn't just follow through with what I knew to be true.
I am mad that I am sad.
I want to delete my email account but damned yahoo allows me 90 days to reactivate and I am weak!
I am mad at me I am mad at you.
I don't doubt that you will email me again but why do this to myself again.
You linger in my head and my heart. I want it to STOP.
I guess that's the problem with the whole thing. I shouldn't have slept with anyone there was bound to be emotions involved. Namely mine.
* Location: Frustration-ville
Found at: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/wat/mis/1515404887.html
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re: to the guy I've slept with...
Date: 2009-12-18, 7:03AM EST
Reply to: pers-jukq2-1515479404@craigslist.org
OMG. You really give other women a bad name. You must be really young (I hope) and/or naive. I wouldn't be surprised though if you told me you were 50 though... When he reads your MC he is going to have even less respect for you than he already does. Pls delete it immediately, and then forget it w/this guy and learn from your own pitiful mistakes and work on your self-esteem. Sounds cliche but it really is true. You wont even be attracted to men who like to play cat and mouse games anymore once you do this. You will never change his opinion of you. I don't even have to tell you he is using you, because you are trying to ignore your intuition. Just STOP...and happy holidays.
Found at: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/mis/1515479404.html
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To Frutration-ville
Date: 2009-12-18, 7:50PM EST
Reply to: pers-tjuge-1516546805@craigslist.org
It's got to be said...."He's just not that into you".
You're both playing games. You present yourself on a silver platter with legs spread and you think he's going to say no....HA! Close your legs and open your eyes. You're setting yourself up for heartbreak and disappointment.
I don't mean to seem harsh but I'm talking to you like I would my sister. If I sugar coat it you'll just lick off the sweet stuff and never get to the bitter core.
Your hope is that by having world rocking sex with this guy he'll realize he just can't live without you....ain't gonna happen. If you pick right up where you left off, talking dirty to him, teasing and tempting him despite how he treated you,.....well you're telling him you're no better than a 1-900- Dial a Ho....only difference is you're getting jipped out of $5.99 a minute. And then to follow through and have sex with him!?!?! I'm not even going to say it.....
There are too many men out there looking for a good woman. Stop wasting your time and your heart!
Found at: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/mis/1516546805.html
Reply to: pers-zqzzz-1515404887@craigslist.org
Why OH WHY do I do this to myself. I am attached and REALLY don't need your attention. But we had our first encounters and you were forever connected with my mind, heart and my vagina. We stopped talking for a long time, I think it was because of you, you insist that I was the one who ended it. Whatever. But I saw you this summer after over a year of feeling a bit insecure and somewhat distraught over the fact that you just STOPPED talking to me. After all did I say something wrong, was I not cute enough, etc... I am a girl and thats what this does to us (me). Anyways, I see you and I get up the nerve to talk to you at your work. I ask you a stupid question just so you would know that the girl you dropped still existed. Anyway I go home and post a Missed Connection, I used words that were specific to our original encounter and there after a day or 2 was your email. I liked it... you, who dropped me, were paying me some attention.
There was the initial (from me) Uhm you just stopped talking to me? and (from you) You ended it, you told me you didn't want to talk to me anymore.
This is true, I did say I wanted to stop talking BUT we still communicated after that and then at some point you stopped responding to texts.
So, after clarifying that we stopped talking because of ME (thanks- silly me I was depressed on and off for a year because I just stopped talking to YOU)
So we picked right back up with the sexual dialogue that I knew you liked. After all you looked on MC and you responded to me you must want me.
So I went with it. I do enjoyed it too, I really am a fan of sex!
Months of wanting and talking and we did it! Yay!! Right?! NOPE! 10 days no communication. THANKS AGAIN! I emailed you a holiday greeting somewhere in there and eventually you emailed back with something about the Internet being down. Hm. ok. Well within a few days you'd asked about having another meet up. Really? After we had sex and didnt talk to me for 10 days? Well that wasn't what I had been hoping for and I told you so. I also told you I wasn't interested in sleeping with someone who didn't really care for me. (You might be thinking what was I expecting right? Well in the very beginning I wanted sex but almost immediately after that I wanted an emotional connection. Maybe it's just because I am a female and thats how some of us work.) Anyhow, you assured me you did care and that it wasn't just about sex and that if I gave you another chance that you'd prove it to me, you'd show me how you felt.
Well, we did it again! YAYYY! Right!? Well not to sound psycho but 2 days later and there has been total silence. I do agree that I got to spend more time with you this encounter and that it was nice talking to you and laying with you BUT this or that rather isn't what I want. I want a relationship with you. I want to know that if I sleep with you today that in some form or fashion today or at the latest tomorrow I will have contact from you. If that isn't possible neither are our encounters. I am pissed that I slept with you again. I am pissed that I didn't just follow through with what I knew to be true.
I am mad that I am sad.
I want to delete my email account but damned yahoo allows me 90 days to reactivate and I am weak!
I am mad at me I am mad at you.
I don't doubt that you will email me again but why do this to myself again.
You linger in my head and my heart. I want it to STOP.
I guess that's the problem with the whole thing. I shouldn't have slept with anyone there was bound to be emotions involved. Namely mine.
* Location: Frustration-ville
Found at: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/wat/mis/1515404887.html
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re: to the guy I've slept with...
Date: 2009-12-18, 7:03AM EST
Reply to: pers-jukq2-1515479404@craigslist.org
OMG. You really give other women a bad name. You must be really young (I hope) and/or naive. I wouldn't be surprised though if you told me you were 50 though... When he reads your MC he is going to have even less respect for you than he already does. Pls delete it immediately, and then forget it w/this guy and learn from your own pitiful mistakes and work on your self-esteem. Sounds cliche but it really is true. You wont even be attracted to men who like to play cat and mouse games anymore once you do this. You will never change his opinion of you. I don't even have to tell you he is using you, because you are trying to ignore your intuition. Just STOP...and happy holidays.
Found at: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/mis/1515479404.html
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To Frutration-ville
Date: 2009-12-18, 7:50PM EST
Reply to: pers-tjuge-1516546805@craigslist.org
It's got to be said...."He's just not that into you".
You're both playing games. You present yourself on a silver platter with legs spread and you think he's going to say no....HA! Close your legs and open your eyes. You're setting yourself up for heartbreak and disappointment.
I don't mean to seem harsh but I'm talking to you like I would my sister. If I sugar coat it you'll just lick off the sweet stuff and never get to the bitter core.
Your hope is that by having world rocking sex with this guy he'll realize he just can't live without you....ain't gonna happen. If you pick right up where you left off, talking dirty to him, teasing and tempting him despite how he treated you,.....well you're telling him you're no better than a 1-900- Dial a Ho....only difference is you're getting jipped out of $5.99 a minute. And then to follow through and have sex with him!?!?! I'm not even going to say it.....
There are too many men out there looking for a good woman. Stop wasting your time and your heart!
Found at: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/mis/1516546805.html
Tuesday, December 15, 2009
Your loss
Date: 2009-12-13, 3:52PM PST
Reply to: pers-aymrd-1508676403@craigslist.org
You were perfect in my eyes.
And all I wanted and needed, was you.
Until the real you was exposed.
You ran from your own lies and mistakes.
Too selfish to face and rectify all the damage you did.
You mistook your own greed for love.
Deception and greed being all that motivates you.
You are completely heartless and incapable of loving anyone.
And in return, no one will ever love what does not exist in you.
You can use and cheat us all, out of our love and our fortunes, temporarily.
But in the end, you will end up with nothing true, condemned and alone.
Evil is as evil was and always will be.
* Location: Free from your deception
Found at: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/mis/1508676403.html
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Re; Your Loss
Date: 2009-12-14, 8:15AM PST
Reply to: pers-hbtsb-1509447804@craigslist.org
Deception is a commonly used word for you,
so much, that it has taken away all reasoning, and
character within you.
I was your blessing in disguise, and a true rare find
that made you feel more alive than ever.
It's hard to believe, that your twisted warped concious
mind (if you have one at all) allows you to function.
You judge, because you lied.
You decieved, you took away the very foundation of "us",
and made it fit your own shortcomings, that you cannnot
be truthful about.
I gave you my heart, and you shattered it, knowingly, maliciously,
and you think that's sufficient.
Evil is a very strong word, but you have filled it to capacity
because of your lack of integrity, and commitment.
I love unconditionally. You "play the part". A true artist
in manipulation.
So you keep on telling yourself you've been wronged.
The jokes on you, and the fallout will be much greater.
in every sense of the word.
Found at: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/mis/1509447804.html
Reply to: pers-aymrd-1508676403@craigslist.org
You were perfect in my eyes.
And all I wanted and needed, was you.
Until the real you was exposed.
You ran from your own lies and mistakes.
Too selfish to face and rectify all the damage you did.
You mistook your own greed for love.
Deception and greed being all that motivates you.
You are completely heartless and incapable of loving anyone.
And in return, no one will ever love what does not exist in you.
You can use and cheat us all, out of our love and our fortunes, temporarily.
But in the end, you will end up with nothing true, condemned and alone.
Evil is as evil was and always will be.
* Location: Free from your deception
Found at: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/mis/1508676403.html
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Re; Your Loss
Date: 2009-12-14, 8:15AM PST
Reply to: pers-hbtsb-1509447804@craigslist.org
Deception is a commonly used word for you,
so much, that it has taken away all reasoning, and
character within you.
I was your blessing in disguise, and a true rare find
that made you feel more alive than ever.
It's hard to believe, that your twisted warped concious
mind (if you have one at all) allows you to function.
You judge, because you lied.
You decieved, you took away the very foundation of "us",
and made it fit your own shortcomings, that you cannnot
be truthful about.
I gave you my heart, and you shattered it, knowingly, maliciously,
and you think that's sufficient.
Evil is a very strong word, but you have filled it to capacity
because of your lack of integrity, and commitment.
I love unconditionally. You "play the part". A true artist
in manipulation.
So you keep on telling yourself you've been wronged.
The jokes on you, and the fallout will be much greater.
in every sense of the word.
Found at: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/mis/1509447804.html
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